Comments on: The Boys of DemoCamp strike again http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/ Mid-40's feminist engineer talks about everything not about BPM Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:53:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Off Topic :: Getting women into technology jobs http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1414 Off Topic :: Getting women into technology jobs Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:49:01 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1414 [...] My post earlier this week about Alec Saunders’ sexist demo scenario at DemoCamp 12 (criticism that he took quite gracefully) led to both a blog post on his part, then an email and Skype discussion between us. [...] [...] My post earlier this week about Alec Saunders’ sexist demo scenario at DemoCamp 12 (criticism that he took quite gracefully) led to both a blog post on his part, then an email and Skype discussion between us. [...]

]]> By: Alec Saunders http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1391 Alec Saunders Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:25:47 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1391 Ah, well, you can find her bio (it's Traci Lords)in most of the movie and television databases on the internet. I'll leave it to you to search further if you're interested. Ah, well, you can find her bio (it’s Traci Lords)in most of the movie and television databases on the internet. I’ll leave it to you to search further if you’re interested.

]]> By: sandy http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1389 sandy Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:09:31 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1389 I have no idea who Tracy Lords is, so I guess I missed that one. I have no idea who Tracy Lords is, so I guess I missed that one.

]]> By: Alec Saunders http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1388 Alec Saunders Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:04:35 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1388 I'll tell you something I was suprised by Sandy... it was the constant Tracy Lords joke. It's interesting what we're sensitive to. I am surprised that women apparently didn't find that offensive. It certainly made me cringe when I heard it, and while it wasn't "offensive" to me, I thought it a little tasteless given the gender mix in the audience. I’ll tell you something I was suprised by Sandy… it was the constant Tracy Lords joke. It’s interesting what we’re sensitive to. I am surprised that women apparently didn’t find that offensive. It certainly made me cringe when I heard it, and while it wasn’t “offensive” to me, I thought it a little tasteless given the gender mix in the audience.

]]> By: Called out for sexism. Ouch! -- Alec Saunders .LOG http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1387 Called out for sexism. Ouch! -- Alec Saunders .LOG Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:46:32 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1387 [...] I thought the DemoCamp presentation I did last night went pretty well, but was a little surprised to see this posting The Boys of DemoCamp Strike Again.  Sandy Kemsley found my scenario where demo-guy John asks demo-gal Jill for a date to be sexist.  Personally, I didn’t see it as discriminatory, nor do I consider dating necessarily a bad traditional behaviour to perpetuate.  After all, where would we be if didn’t occasionally find a mate and breed… extinct! [...] [...] I thought the DemoCamp presentation I did last night went pretty well, but was a little surprised to see this posting The Boys of DemoCamp Strike Again.  Sandy Kemsley found my scenario where demo-guy John asks demo-gal Jill for a date to be sexist.  Personally, I didn’t see it as discriminatory, nor do I consider dating necessarily a bad traditional behaviour to perpetuate.  After all, where would we be if didn’t occasionally find a mate and breed… extinct! [...]

]]> By: sandy http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1386 sandy Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:40:40 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1386 Thanks for the comment, Alec. I had the impression that it was unintentional, but still kinda stuck out for me. Call me a sensitive female engineer, I guess. :) Thanks for the comment, Alec. I had the impression that it was unintentional, but still kinda stuck out for me. Call me a sensitive female engineer, I guess. :)

]]> By: Alec Saunders http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1385 Alec Saunders Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:29:45 +0000 http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/02/the-boys-of-democamp-strike-again/#comment-1385 Hey Sandy, Thanks for pointing that out. No sexism intended. I've worked with hundreds of talented female engineers in my career, and hope to continue to do so. I'll find another reason for demo-guy John to call demo-gal Jill in future demos. Alec. Hey Sandy,

Thanks for pointing that out. No sexism intended. I’ve worked with hundreds of talented female engineers in my career, and hope to continue to do so. I’ll find another reason for demo-guy John to call demo-gal Jill in future demos.

Alec.

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