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	<title>Comments on: mesh: a conference by, for and featuring white men</title>
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	<description>Late-40&#039;s feminist engineer talks about everything not about BPM</description>
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		<title>By: Off Topic :: Playing in your walled wurstgarten</title>
		<link>http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/03/mesh-a-conference-by-for-and-featuring-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator>Off Topic :: Playing in your walled wurstgarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this week, after my post about mesh&#8217;s lack of visible reasons for a having a bunch of white guys as their keynote [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this week, after my post about mesh&#8217;s lack of visible reasons for a having a bunch of white guys as their keynote [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Off Topic :: Out come the long knives</title>
		<link>http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/03/mesh-a-conference-by-for-and-featuring-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Off Topic :: Out come the long knives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] organizers explaining why they were yet another tech conference with no women keynote speakers, I wrote a post that parodied their unnamed reasons for this. I didn&#8217;t give a lot of background to this in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] organizers explaining why they were yet another tech conference with no women keynote speakers, I wrote a post that parodied their unnamed reasons for this. I didn&#8217;t give a lot of background to this in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Podonomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pink Divide Credo</title>
		<link>http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/03/mesh-a-conference-by-for-and-featuring-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1575</link>
		<dc:creator>Podonomics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pink Divide Credo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] God, this argument again? Geez, we keep harping on the same problems over and over. When does this end? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] God, this argument again? Geez, we keep harping on the same problems over and over. When does this end? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What idiots.  Everyone knows that girls get cooties from boys, not the other way around.  (insert rolling eyes emoticon here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What idiots.  Everyone knows that girls get cooties from boys, not the other way around.  (insert rolling eyes emoticon here)</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.sandyofftopic.com/2007/03/mesh-a-conference-by-for-and-featuring-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1573</link>
		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I sent the following email to Stuart on March 12th, and have received no response, so felt that you weren&#039;t really interested in a conversation:


&lt;blockquote&gt;I was at mesh last year, and I saw a lot of the pre-conference noise around how few women speakers were there. I&#039;ve also be participating in a lot of conversations with others in the TorCamp community lately about the difficulties that some companies have in hiring women engineers/technologists: many small technology firms have no women engineers at all, although I&#039;ve run a 40-person company as CEO/CTO, and my entire technical management team was female, so I know that it can be done. I believe that some of the reasons for the lack of women in these jobs is cultural, but much of it is corporate culture/personality, which can be unwittingly unfriendly to women who might consider applying for jobs at a company. Given the high participation rates of women in using social networking applications, and the different viewpoints that women engineers can bring to a development team, it&#039;s critical for Web 2.0 companies to be aware of whether they&#039;re sending the wrong message to potential female job candidates.
 
I&#039;d love to hear and participate in a conversation about hiring women in technology, particularly from companies with good hiring ratios about their reasons for success. Is there potential for such a panel at mesh this year? I&#039;d be very interested in contributing to such a panel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d be happy to have a conversation, but it seems strange that I have to resort to public ridicule in order to make you pay attention to my request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I sent the following email to Stuart on March 12th, and have received no response, so felt that you weren&#8217;t really interested in a conversation:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was at mesh last year, and I saw a lot of the pre-conference noise around how few women speakers were there. I&#8217;ve also be participating in a lot of conversations with others in the TorCamp community lately about the difficulties that some companies have in hiring women engineers/technologists: many small technology firms have no women engineers at all, although I&#8217;ve run a 40-person company as CEO/CTO, and my entire technical management team was female, so I know that it can be done. I believe that some of the reasons for the lack of women in these jobs is cultural, but much of it is corporate culture/personality, which can be unwittingly unfriendly to women who might consider applying for jobs at a company. Given the high participation rates of women in using social networking applications, and the different viewpoints that women engineers can bring to a development team, it&#8217;s critical for Web 2.0 companies to be aware of whether they&#8217;re sending the wrong message to potential female job candidates.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear and participate in a conversation about hiring women in technology, particularly from companies with good hiring ratios about their reasons for success. Is there potential for such a panel at mesh this year? I&#8217;d be very interested in contributing to such a panel.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to have a conversation, but it seems strange that I have to resort to public ridicule in order to make you pay attention to my request.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy,
If you&#039;d like to talk our mesh and offer us some feedback, I&#039;d be more than happy to speak with you. 

cheers, Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy,<br />
If you&#8217;d like to talk our mesh and offer us some feedback, I&#8217;d be more than happy to speak with you. </p>
<p>cheers, Mark</p>
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